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Re: [Tools-discuss] Content at notes.ietf.org is not archival

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Thu, 16 September 2021 21:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Content at notes.ietf.org is not archival
To: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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On 9/16/2021 2:17 PM, Tero Kivinen wrote:

> The problem with notes.ietf.org is not that we can't keep the data,
> itis that we can't find the data. I have no idea what was the etherpad
> url for my session 4 years ago. I can most likely find it from the
> chair slides if I happened to copy it there, but otherwise I would
> need to go and find it from the somewhere else.

Of course, that creates a special problem for archival, standard 
processes, etc. What if someone writes something they should not, gets 
the point across in the WG, and then edits the note to remove the 
offensive text? What is supposed to be archived? Just the note, or the 
whole editing history?

-- Christian Huitema

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