Re: [Tools-discuss] Content at notes.ietf.org is not archival

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Thu, 16 September 2021 20:02 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 16:02:33 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Content at notes.ietf.org is not archival
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, Working Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>, tools-discuss <tools-discuss@ietf.org>
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Christian,

Completed minutes are archived in the Datatracker. These are draft
minutes that we're talking about here.

Cheers,
Andy



On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 3:39 PM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
wrote:

>
> On 9/16/2021 12:22 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> >      >> On 16. Sep 2021, at 09:46, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
> wrote:
> >      >>
> >      >> Or, just automatically delete notes 30 days after creation.
> >
> >      > (Again, I don’t know whether this was a serious proposal.  I’ll
> treat
> >      > is as such for the purpose of this message.)
> >
> > Well, I'm serious.
> > I think 30 days might be way too long.
> >
> > WG and design team leaders should know to download minutes at the end of
> the
> > session.  It's not hard.
> > But, in order to train that, the contents needs to disappear within the
> day,
> > and there will be some crying.   Some WG session minutes will go away.
> >
> >      > Collecting notes in our own service (as opposed to hackmd.io or
> Google
> >      > docs) gives us more control.  Another benefit of having a common
> >      > service is that, after a while, everybody knows how to use it and
> we
> >      > can integrate it into other tools.
> >
> > Agreed.
>
> The IETF already archives mail messages and Internet drafts. How hard
> would it be to archive notes and minutes? After all, this texts are part
> of the standard making process, covered by the Note Well, etc.
>
> -- Christian Huitema
>
>