RE: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?

["STARK, BARBARA H" <[e-mail]>]

> > Hi Carsten -
> >
> > A _very rough_ look into what the datatracker has data for says that
> somewhere around 40% of the folks that registered for IETF105 have logged
> into the datatracker this year.
> 
> Thank you, Robert.
> 
> At first, I thought that number was surprisingly low, but then, I notice that
> I’m using datatracker all the time but only log in for “leadership” things.  Since
> about a third of the people at an IETF might be considered “leadership” in
> some form, the number actually is about right.
> 
> So maybe the IETF registration number is better for that.  Also, people have
> that with them (and can type it from their badge in a pinch).
> 
> I’m still not convinced the solution (adding more threshold) is better than the
> problem (accidentally overwritten notes that can easily be reverted), but at
> least we now seem to know a good way to improve the situation.
> 
> (I personally wouldn’t mind having to make the intention to write explicit.
> This would also help with the color to note-taker mapping.)
> 
> Grüße, Carsten

When I've used Meetecho (to watch and not present, which is what most Meetecho people do), I don't remember ever logging in. Do people have to log in? It's been a while for me. I do see some people registering as remote attendees, but I get the sense there are a whole lot of people on Meetecho who aren't registered. Having to search for my IETF registration number before taking minutes would add some additional setup time for me (I usually do a search in my inbox for something like "IETF registration" and manually scan the 100 or so results for the one from "[e-mail]"). And the device I take minutes on isn't always one with access to my email account -- so I would have to manually type the number found in one device to the Etherpad in the other. I've found connections to Etherpad go up and down a lot, and they go up and down more when I'm going through the corporate VLAN. I hope any logging in mechanism would allow the same person to be logged in multiple times. Sometimes I do have to use the corporate laptop without the VPN (instead of the personal laptop) because it has more robust Wi-Fi.

Honestly, I'd prefer to just experiment with notetaker (me, or any other notetaker in a different WG) asks chair at start of meeting to ask people on Etherpad to put their name in. See how many people do and how many don't. It seems really easy and presents no barrier. I notice part of Etherpad history has the names (or not) of all who typed something. So maybe it would be possible to draw statistics from WGs that participated in this experiment. 

I'd prefer not to over-solve this problem. 
Barbara