Re: Minutes being messed with?
Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 29 July 2019 07:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: Minutes being messed with?
To: "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
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From: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:47:55 +0300
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Why is this a problem? Did they actually remove the English minutes? If the translated minutes are included or linked with a note saying that only the English version is authoritative, it would seem fine to me. Thanks, Yaron On 29/07/2019 9:26, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote: > LSVR was during session translated into Chinese. > > G/ > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Lars Eggert > <lars@eggert.org> > *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2019 8:25:54 AM > *To:* IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Minutes being messed with? > Hi, > > I am now aware that at least two sets of minutes (ADD and QUIC) were > temporarily (auto-?) translated into different languages (apparently > Russian for ADD and some Asian language for QUIC). > > Have there been more incidents like this? > > We can of course undo this (thanks to an edit history) but it sure is > annoying. > > Lars
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