RE: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?

Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com> Wed, 07 August 2019 17:50 UTC

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From: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>, Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com>
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What can be done if someone accidentally highlight the entire content of Etherpad and clicked CUT (instead of COPY) when they want to copy the content to their Note on their local device?  Instead of click the Back Button on the Etherpad, they click the Back Button on the website, then everything is lost. Is there anyway to retrieve the content?

Linda

From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
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Subject: Re: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?

Sandy,

but - why does the minute taker having a datatracker account make anyone feel better?  I’ve lost track - what problem does having a datatracker account solve?

If someone (for example) accidentally replaces the Etherpad minutes with a foreign language translation, there would be traceability as to who did it, so we can ask them nicely to not do that again. Or it could be prevented in the first place if it was a non-IETFer without a datatracker account that accidentally destructively did the translation.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:36 PM Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com<mailto:sandy@tislabs.com>> wrote:


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net<mailto:fenton@bluepopcorn.net>> wrote:
>
> On 8/7/19 9:21 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>>>> It is probably more than enough to limit write access to people with datatracker accounts.
>>
>>>   I support that.   We can then see if that solves the problem.
>>
>> It looks like a simple matter of programming :)  Etherpad already supports a read-only access, and an oauth plugin, and there's a ticket to add it to datatracker, https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/2749<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftrac.tools.ietf.org%2Ftools%2Fietfdb%2Fticket%2F2749&data=02%7C01%7Clinda.dunbar%40futurewei.com%7Cd26f725a4b5a4fe703a108d71b5ee98f%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637007966781088570&sdata=m8SmmZYkjss2KeUE%2FCaxA34m2bss4SrE5vnzt3FZeyE%3D&reserved=0> if anyone has that mythical "copious free time."
>>
>>
> Someone had expressed concern that requiring a datatracker login would
> make it harder to recruit notetakers. I had expected that most attendees
> who are likely notetakers already have datatracker accounts.
>
> Does anyone know if that concern is warranted?

I had a similar thought about barriers.  How many ietf attendees have datatracker accounts?  (could be that only the number of datatracker accounts is known.)  what is the process for getting an account?  (if it is automated and responds quickly, the barrier is small).

but - why does the minute taker having a datatracker account make anyone feel better?  I’ve lost track - what problem does having a datatracker account solve?

>
> -Jim