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Re: Minutes being messed with?

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Mon, 29 July 2019 18:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: Minutes being messed with?
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>, Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com>
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From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:08:12 +0100
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Well the best idea is to recruit a WG Secretary.

That way the minutes are taken care of and the individual gets first 
stage training in becoming a WG Chair.

- Stewart

On 29/07/2019 18:59, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> I think a datatracker login would be valuable, it could automatically 
> associate people with colors, which is a manual process now, if it gets 
> done at all. I really don't see it as a barrier to finding a scribe. And 
> as noted, it adds a bit of accountability to the process - if someone, 
> perhaps by accident, translates the whole thing in place, we'll know who 
> it was so we can kindly ask them to not do it again.
> 
> And speaking of finding a scribe, I hate it when a WG chair asks for 
> volunteers at the beginning of a meeting. Minute takers and jabber 
> scribes should be in place before well before the meeting.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:00 PM Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com 
> <mailto:mcmanus@ducksong.com>> wrote:
> 
>     please don't add a datatracker login to the etherpad requirements -
>     it is already hard enough to find people to take minutes.
> 
>     however an anonymous "click to edit" button would do fine and likely
>     prevent this from accidentally happening without breaking the
>     no-doubt useful translation feature being used.
> 
>     On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:54 AM Henrik Levkowetz
>     <henrik@levkowetz.com <mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>         On 2019-07-29 17:30, Jim Fenton wrote:
>          > On 7/29/19 1:06 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
>         wrote:
>          >> Yep, they were swapped, while I was typing.. it confused the
>         heck out of me .
>          >
>          > If this is disrupting things, and it sounds like it is,
>         perhaps Etherpad
>          > should require a Datatracker login in order to edit. That
>         would at least
>          > provide some accountability, and we would know who we need to
>         "coach".
> 
>         Yes, this has been my conclusion from the thread so far.
> 
>                  Henrik
> 
>          > I missed the ADD BOF, so I tried looked at Etherpad
>         afterwards and it
>          > was a bunch of Cyrillic text. Glad to know about the history
>         slider!
>          >
>          > -Jim
>          >
>          >
>          >
>

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