Re: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Wed, 07 August 2019 18:44 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 14:44:33 -0400
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Subject: Re: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?
To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>
Cc: Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com>, IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
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Linda,

If you click the clock icon in the upper right, you get a time slider that
allows you to go back change by change all the way to the blank page at at
the start if you like, or anywhere in-between. So yes, the page can be
recovered. It would still be nice to not have to, though.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:50 PM Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com>
wrote:

> What can be done if someone accidentally highlight the entire content of
> Etherpad and clicked CUT (instead of COPY) when they want to copy the
> content to their Note on their local device?  Instead of click the Back
> Button on the Etherpad, they click the Back Button on the website, then
> everything is lost. Is there anyway to retrieve the content?
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> *From:* WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Andrew G.
> Malis
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:44 PM
> *To:* Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com>
> *Cc:* IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?
>
>
>
> Sandy,
>
>
>
> but - why does the minute taker having a datatracker account make anyone
> feel better?  I’ve lost track - what problem does having a datatracker
> account solve?
>
>
>
> If someone (for example) accidentally replaces the Etherpad minutes with a
> foreign language translation, there would be traceability as to who did it,
> so we can ask them nicely to not do that again. Or it could be prevented in
> the first place if it was a non-IETFer without a datatracker account that
> accidentally destructively did the translation.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:36 PM Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/7/19 9:21 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
> >>>> It is probably more than enough to limit write access to people with
> datatracker accounts.
> >>
> >>>   I support that.   We can then see if that solves the problem.
> >>
> >> It looks like a simple matter of programming :)  Etherpad already
> supports a read-only access, and an oauth plugin, and there's a ticket to
> add it to datatracker,
> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/2749
> <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftrac.tools.ietf.org%2Ftools%2Fietfdb%2Fticket%2F2749&data=02%7C01%7Clinda.dunbar%40futurewei.com%7Cd26f725a4b5a4fe703a108d71b5ee98f%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637007966781088570&sdata=m8SmmZYkjss2KeUE%2FCaxA34m2bss4SrE5vnzt3FZeyE%3D&reserved=0>
> if anyone has that mythical "copious free time."
> >>
> >>
> > Someone had expressed concern that requiring a datatracker login would
> > make it harder to recruit notetakers. I had expected that most attendees
> > who are likely notetakers already have datatracker accounts.
> >
> > Does anyone know if that concern is warranted?
>
> I had a similar thought about barriers.  How many ietf attendees have
> datatracker accounts?  (could be that only the number of datatracker
> accounts is known.)  what is the process for getting an account?  (if it is
> automated and responds quickly, the barrier is small).
>
> but - why does the minute taker having a datatracker account make anyone
> feel better?  I’ve lost track - what problem does having a datatracker
> account solve?
>
> >
> > -Jim
>
>