Re: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 07 August 2019 15:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 08:58:51 -0700
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> On Aug 6, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 6, 2019, at 17:33, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> For the purpose of producing w.g. minutes, it would be nice to be able to lock its write access to the minute takers.   We usually know who they are in advance.
> 
> It is probably more than enough to limit write access to people with datatracker accounts.

I support that.   We can then see if that solves the problem.

Bob

> 
> This is a little like wikipedia, where everyone can make a change, but destructive changes are quickly backed out.  Freezing isn’t really necessary, as you can always rewind to the end of the meeting (but then, people do correct mistakes afterwards).
> 
> (I repeat my suggestion to have a look at hackmd/codimd as an Etherpad replacement.  It sure works for our students.)
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
>