Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-send]
Andrew Kirch <trelane@trelane.net> Wed, 02 March 2011 04:56 UTC
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On 3/1/2011 10:31 PM, Chris Lewis wrote: > On 3/1/2011 5:06 PM, Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: > >> If one consider that spammers money is dirty money (criminal activity >> as one said)... and if part of >> the DNSBL revenue comes from this dirty money, how do you name this ? >> Probably not "money laundry", >> but surely not something legal. > > While this particular horse isn't particularly relevant (if not dead), > there are a variety of illegal things it could be, depending on the > circumstances. The key is whether the DNSBL operator can be shown to > have _known_ that the delist request corresponded to ongoing illegal > activity. If it can, it could be accessory, conspiracy, racketeering > or other things. > _______________________________________________ > Asrg mailing list > Asrg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg Those who are not lawyers should not practice law. In fact, this is another failing of this section of the draft. Andrew
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Neil Schwartzman
- [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Richard Welty
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 John Johnson
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Kelly Molloy
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Michael Ellis
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Franck Martin
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 TRBL Support
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Larry M. Smith
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Rich Kulawiec
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Mickey Chandler
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Joe Sniderman
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Steve Linford
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Michael McConnell
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Emanuele Balla (aka Skull)
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Matthias Leisi
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Graeme Fowler
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Blaine Fleming
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Matt Sergeant
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Michelle Sullivan
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Michelle Sullivan
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Joe Sniderman
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Esa Laitinen
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Al Iverson
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Matt Sergeant
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Andrew Kirch
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Kelly Molloy
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Seth
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Martijn Grooten
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Seth
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Seth
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Steve Linford
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Seth
- [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 Udeme Ukutt
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Neil Schwartzman
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Seth
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Seth
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Chris Lewis
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Bill Cole
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Andrew Kirch
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Chris Lewis
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Andrew Kirch
- Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-… Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz