Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-send]
Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz <Jose-Marcio.Martins@mines-paristech.fr> Tue, 01 March 2011 19:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-07 [re-send]
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Esa Laitinen wrote: > > Yes, and this is a good thing. It encourages the provider of the data > (the DNSxL) to be loyal to the consumer of the data, rather than the > subject of the data. > > There is potential for conflict of interest here, though: what if the > consumer of the data (i.e. paying customer) is also involved in spamming? This is probably an exception. Normal customers will subscribe (let me use the word subscribe instead of pay) in order to use the DNSxL to help him fight spam. Spammers will subscribe, probably, to check if him is blacklisted. This means, the DNSxL list provider shall tell what's the intended good usage of the list. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Jose Marcio MARTINS DA CRUZ http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr Ecole des Mines de Paris 60, bd Saint Michel 75272 - PARIS CEDEX 06 mailto:Jose-Marcio.Martins@mines-paristech.fr
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