Re: [Asrg] E-postage from first principles
John Levine <asrg@johnlevine.com> Thu, 29 April 2004 18:03 UTC
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From: John Levine <asrg@johnlevine.com>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] E-postage from first principles
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>A good summary, John. Thanks. >> Receipient rate limiting might take the form of hashcash, although >> that seems too easily circumvented so long as the bad guys have >> zombies to do their hashing. > >This is a quantitative rather than qualitative argument against >hashcash, which is easily answered by increasing the bit count demanded >by the recipient, if it seems it's not having enough effect. The problem is that if you increase the bit count demanded from the bad guys, you also increase the bit count demanded from the good guys. Since the bad guys have more computers at their disposal than the good guys do, if you demand a big enough hash from the bad guys to deter them, you're going to lock out the good guys altogether, e.g., demand a hash from Aunt Sadie that will limit her 486 to one e-mail message a week. You might want to demand larger hashes from bad guys from good guys, but if you could tell which was which, you could reject the bad guys' mail outright and dispense with the hashes. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY http://www.taugh.com _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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