RE: [Asrg] seeking comments on new RMX article

Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com> Mon, 05 May 2003 17:36 UTC

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From: Vernon Schryver <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com>
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Subject: RE: [Asrg] seeking comments on new RMX article
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Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 11:30:21 -0600

> From: "Eric D. Williams" <eric@infobro.com>

> Is RMX a proposed change to existing Internet services OR, 1) a proposed 
> extension to/of existing services? 2) an additional use of existing services? 
> 3) a new protocol?
>
> My read is that it is #2 above.  The RMX proposal do not seem to constitute a 
> change to existing services but rather a leveraging of those services to 
> achieve a specific goal.  It also seems to be application specific as opposed 
> to a networking protocol.

Yes, but what is your point?
  - Have you noticed much use of DNSSEC?
  - How about some of the major improvements in the not so recent
     update to the HTTP protocol?
  - SMTP-TLS has been available for years, but this mailing list is not
     using it.  Do the SMTP servers or clients near you use it?

Then there are RIPv2, IPv6, TCP-SACK, and TCP-ENS.  Even TCP
slow-start took most of 10 years, and that was in the old days when
the net was tiny and well controlled.

As the saying goes, "In theory there is no difference between theory
and practice, but in practice there is."  

Would those who assure us that deploying RMX or any anti-spam scheme
could be done in fewer than 10 years tell us about their credentials
for making their authoritative sounding statements?  What protocol
have they been involved in that was deployed as fast as their spam
system would be?


Vernon Schryver    vjs@rhyolite.com
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