Re: [Autoconf] new charter
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 26 February 2009 19:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] new charter
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Teco Boot a écrit : > Inline: > > |-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > |Van: autoconf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:autoconf-bounces@ietf.org] Namens > |Alexandru Petrescu > |Verzonden: donderdag 26 februari 2009 18:41 > |Aan: Ryuji Wakikawa > |CC: autoconf@ietf.org > |Onderwerp: Re: [Autoconf] new charter > | > |Ryuji Wakikawa a écrit : > |[gracefully re-formatted] > |> Ad-Hoc Network Autoconfiguration (autoconf) > |> > |> Last Modified: 2009-02-18 > |> > |> Additional information is available at tools.ietf.org/wg/autoconf > |[snipped] > |> Description of Working Group: > |> > |> In order to communicate among themselves, ad hoc nodes (refer to RFC > |> 2501) need to configure their network interface(s) with local > |addresses > |> that are valid within an ad hoc network. Ad hoc nodes may also need to > |> configure globally routable addresses, in order to communicate with > |> devices on the Internet. From the IP layer perspective, an ad hoc > |> network presents itself as a L3 multi-hop network formed over a > |> collection of links. > |> > |> The main purpose of the AUTOCONF WG is to describe the addressing > |model > |> for ad hoc networks and how nodes in these networks configure their > |> addresses. It is required that such models do not cause problems for > |ad > |> hoc-unaware parts of the system, such as standard applications running > |> on an ad hoc node or regular Internet nodes attached to the ad hoc > |> nodes. This group's effort may include the development of new protocol > |> mechanisms, should the existing IP autoconfiguration mechanisms be > |found > |> inadequate. However, the first task of the working group is to > |describe > |> one practical addressing model for ad hoc networks. > | > |Would a straightforward addressing model along the following lines fit > |the bill?: > | > | ----- wifi "adhoc1" ------ wifi "adhoc2" ----- > | |Host1|---------------|Router|---------------|Host2| > | ----- LL1 LL2 ------ LL3 LL4 ----- > | G1 G4 > | > | > | > | "adhoc1" and "adhoc2": 802.11 ESSIDs in "ad-hoc" mode. > | Each is an IPv6 subnet. > | LL1...4: IPv6 link-local addresses. > | Self-formed according to rfc2464. > | G1, G4: IPv6 global addresses, for example > | 2001:db8::1/64 and 2001:db8::4/64. > | Manually assigned, or pre-configured with SNMP > | or according to stateless autoconf rfc4862. > > I do not understand why the router doesn't advertize prefixes. If so, the > hosts can autoconfigure globally unique addresses, with distinct prefixes. Sorry, I made an error indeed putting same prefix. How about this updated picture with the prefixes being distinct: ----- wifi "adhoc1" ------ wifi "adhoc2" ----- |Host1|---------------|Router|---------------|Host2| ----- LL1 LL2 ------ LL3 LL4 ----- G1 G4 "adhoc1" and "adhoc2": 802.11 ESSIDs in "ad-hoc" mode. Each is an IPv6 subnet. LL1...4: IPv6 link-local addresses. Self-formed according to rfc2464. G1, G4: IPv6 global addresses, for example 2001:db8:1::1/64 and 2001:db8:2::4/64 Manually assigned, or pre-configured with SNMP or formed according to stateless autoconf rfc4862; the prefixes are advertised by Router in RAs. > If not, and one configures globally unique addresses with same prefix on > different segments, (s)he is fully responsible for what services are and are > not provided. I would never design such a network. I agree. Alex > So I would say: no. > > My 2ct, Teco > > > > |Alex > | > | > |_______________________________________________ > |Autoconf mailing list > |Autoconf@ietf.org > |https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf > >
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- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
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- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
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- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
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- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Teco Boot
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- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter HyungJin Lim
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- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter HyungJin Lim
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] practical addressing (was: new cha… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] practical addressing (was: new cha… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
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- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model HyungJin Lim
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- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Teco Boot
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- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] new charter Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
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- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
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- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model Alexandru Petrescu
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