Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf addressing model
"Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" <chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> Thu, 05 March 2009 12:02 UTC
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From: "Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" <chris.dearlove@baesystems.com>
To: "Stan Ratliff (sratliff)" <sratliff@cisco.com>, Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>
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Stan Ratliff > At this point, I feel that we're in a discussion that > is becoming more and more circular, and therefore, > dysfunctional. This discussion has certainly derailed. My last posting agreeing with everything Stan said in an earlier posting than the one I'm quoting unfortunately got lost (at my end). I think there's a need to cut a lot of the chaff away. While there are details that are still open for discussion (otherwise this would have all happened long ago) I think it should be possible to agree on some ground rules, especially with regard to L2, that have rough consensus, and unless multiple people (not just one person) come back wanting to discuss the issue, we just don't. Obviously I can't specify a list of such details, as I'm just one contributor. But I think that such a list would include - L2 agnostic, within the limitations of the following points. Thus although systems such as IEEE 802.11 are important examples, they have no privileged place. - Wireless systems are the reason for MANETs. But MANETs can also use wired links, and some wireless links that are much better behaved, while still allowing for the more difficult cases also to be covered. - The differing characteristics of those wireless links compared to e.g. an Ethernet have to be allowed for. The characteristics that MANET routing protocols are designed to handle need to be part of the design. This includes non-transitive links and non-symmetric local broadcast transmissions at the least. Those aren't carefully thought out wordings, and they certainly aren't complete (the more we can add and retain rough consensus the better). But they would mean, if we can come to such a consensus, that we just don't get trapped down cul-de-sacs like only 802.11, listing specific L2 technologies, and 25m ranges, and spend our effort usefully elsewhere. ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ********************************************************************
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