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Re: [dispatch] SIP and GSM/UMTS with OpenBTS

Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com> Fri, 14 February 2014 12:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dispatch] SIP and GSM/UMTS with OpenBTS
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Your interventions in particular smack of an attempt to suppress 
potential competition through intimidation. I'll let you deal with the 
legalities of that. My personal opinion is that this sort of discussion 
does not belong on IETF lists. I support Mary's viewpoint that our role 
is technical only. Let the application find its own place after we do 
our job.

Tom Taylor

On 14/02/2014 2:57 AM, Ivo Sedlacek wrote:
> Hello Tim and all,
>
>> Apples and oranges - If I want a continent spanning, roaming capable billion dollar GSM network, then I need an IMS system.
>> If I want an Um to SIP gateway I can run off solar power and hang in a tree, I'll go for an openBTS like solution.
>
> If you want an Um to SIP gateway (for whatever purpose), you need a license.  To get a license, you will need to satisfy regulator's requirements.
>
> You still have not provided any references to regulators' document stating that a GSM band is free in any country.
>
> You still have not explain how such BTS "running off solar power and hanging in a tree" does not interfere with other BTSs hanging on the next tree.
>
> So, I am afraid, the BTS and Um To SIP gateway hanging will be switched off pretty quickly due to being illegal or causing interferences with other GSM nodes.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Ivo Sedlacek
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