Re: [dmarc-ietf] is DMARC informational?

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> Fri, 04 December 2020 23:07 UTC

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From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] is DMARC informational?
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On 12/4/2020 3:06 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
>> You think "the working group created a new document" is not responsive?
>>
> No. 

odd.  why not?

d/

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