Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh
Neil Cook <neil.cook@noware.co.uk> Thu, 18 March 2021 17:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh
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Hi Tommy, > On 18 Mar 2021, at 17:13, Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Mainly, this is relevant for resolvers that directly receive client-generated queries, are not directly on the local network (and thus already know a lot about the user), and are in a position where a client can use a proxy to access them. Large public resolvers do fall into this category, but it isn’t limited. It could also be the resolvers used for ISPs, carriers, etc. Can you explain how you think this could also be the resolvers used for ISPs, carriers etc.? To my understanding this draft explicitly excludes the vast majority of them. They are typically *not* public resolvers, and for a proxy not to be colluding with the resolver operator, the proxy would have to be located outside the administrative domain of the ISP/carrier, i.e. outside their network. Perhaps there is some scenario you envisage where third-parties would host and operate proxies within the ISP/Carrier network? Neil
- [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pauly-d… Brian Haberman
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Eric Orth
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Martin Thomson
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Martin Thomson
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Watson Ladd
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Petr Špaček
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tomas Krizek
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Neil Cook
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tomas Krizek
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Orth
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Eric Orth
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG Call for Adoption: dra… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Neil Cook
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Christopher Wood
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… David Schinazi
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [dns-privacy] WG Call for Adoption: draft-pau… Brian Haberman