Re: [dns-privacy] Root Server Operators Statement on DNS Encryption

Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 31 March 2021 00:54 UTC

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From: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 17:53:59 -0700
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Root Server Operators Statement on DNS Encryption
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 5:33 PM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:

>
> Hiya,
>
> On 31/03/2021 01:24, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > As I said earlier, this seems overly conservative given our experience
> with
> > large scale TLS-based services.
>
> For the root servers, I don't get why QNAME minimisation
> isn't enough? If it is enough, that'd imply to me that the
> root server operators statement is fine, so long as it
> is only read to apply to root servers and not TLDs.
>

I had to think about this for a bit, because I didn't properly appreciate
that before.

I think, "IN NS com." doesn't reveal much information.  But perhaps "IN NS
sensitive-tld." could have privacy implications for some folks?

>
> > With that said, this doesn't seem to me to present a severe problem:
> there
> > are a relatively small number of TLD servers, so we could probably
> create a
> > lookaside list of which ones support TLS as suggested in
> > draft-rescorla-dprive-adox-latest-00 Section 3,
>
> I agree that the privacy issues with TLD servers are more
> worthy of attention and I guess require encryption if we are
> to improve things. I'm not saying the above draft is a good
> way to handle that, but the problem in querying TLDs is real,
> whereas for root servers it seems to me way less of a deal.
>
> Or... am I confused? (That happens often:-)
>
> Cheers,
> S.
>