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Re: [dns-privacy] Root Server Operators Statement on DNS Encryption

Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Wed, 31 March 2021 12:34 UTC

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From: Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Root Server Operators Statement on DNS Encryption
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On 3/31/21 5:24 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 10:44:08AM +0200,
>  Vladimír Čunát <vladimir.cunat+ietf@nic.cz> wrote 
>  a message of 12 lines which said:
> 
>> it's not so difficult to completely avoid querying root servers,
>> through one of the "local root" approaches.
> 
> RFC 8806 does not seem mentioned in the statement. Does anyone know
> why? 

I was wondering the same thing. 8806 would definitely preclude the need
to support encryption at the root.

Brian

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