Re: [Ecrit] country specific emergency URNs

Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Wed, 12 July 2017 15:29 UTC

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From: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:29:22 -0400
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To: "Aleksiev, Vasil" <Vasil.Aleksiev@t-mobile.at>
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Vasil,

the service URN does not prescribe any network priority treatment. Indeed,
at least in the US, landline 911 calls are treated exactly the same as
regular calls, e.g., during network congestion. (We have the SIP RPH
mechanism for prioritizing call treatment, but it's not used for civilian
emergency calls.)

I suspect this is try for many of the non-112 calls today. I very much
doubt that marine emergency calls in Finland or 1-800 calls to the poison
control center in the US (and the equivalent set of numbers in Germany,
say) receive any priority treatment in the network.

Again, I think it helps make progress if we do not overload labels with
policy.

Naturally, any country or carrier is free to use any label, including the
URN, to signify any treatment local law and regulation permits or requires.
But the label does not *require* or imply such network treatment.

I admit I'm thoroughly confused by this discussion. Where did the priority
issue suddenly come from? It's not in any ECRIT document that I'm aware of.

Henning

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Aleksiev, Vasil <
Vasil.Aleksiev@t-mobile.at> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
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> A service URN with a top-level service type of "sos" is used only when the
> user intends to establish an emergency call. The emergency call will be
> treated with priority in the network. For non-emergency numbers in one
> country sos shall not be used since priority there is not needed.
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> Best regards,
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> Vasil
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> *Von:* Brian Rosen [mailto:br@brianrosen.net]
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2017 15:46
> *An:* Aleksiev, Vasil <Vasil.Aleksiev@t-mobile.at>
> *Cc:* Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>; ecrit@ietf.org
> *Betreff:* Re: [Ecrit] country specific emergency URNs
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> Vasil
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> Once again, the name has no significance as long as it is unique.  We use
> the names as suggestive for the service to aid the service providers,
> regulators and public safety authorities in setting up the systems, but the
> urn name is not used by anything other than computer software during an
> emergency.
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> If one country has a service for an ambulance service that is considered
> an emergency service, but in another country it is not considered an
> emergency service, we can, and should still use the service in the sos tree
> for the non-emergency service.  On the other hand, if there was a country
> that had two ambulance services, one that was used for emergency transport
> and another that was used for non-emergency transport, then we would need
> two URNs, because we have distinct services and need different URNs.
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> Brian
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