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Re: [Gendispatch] Updating the IETF Discussion List Charter (was: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-eggert-bcp45bis-02.txt)

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Sun, 26 June 2022 21:53 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 14:53:10 -0700
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To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Updating the IETF Discussion List Charter (was: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-eggert-bcp45bis-02.txt)
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On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 2:45 PM Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
wrote:

> On 6/26/22 16:49, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>
> > Speaking as someone who thinks ietf@ietf.org could use some major
> > restructuring, I'd like to acknowledge that there is nothing like
> > community
> > consensus for that. Continuing to debate proposals for that kind of
> > restructuring is simply a waste of everyone's time.
>
> I disagree, and that kind of argument (if it were to hold sway) would be
> a great way to kill any potential progress that could be made.
>
> When a discussion is looping, and nothing new is being said, clearly
> it's time to pause.
>

I don't think I've seen anything new said on this topic in the past decade.

Can you give me an example of what you would consider new?

-Ekr

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