Re: [Idnet] Intelligence-Defined Network Architecture and Call for Interests

Brian Njenga <iambrianmuhia@gmail.com> Tue, 28 March 2017 18:26 UTC

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From: Brian Njenga <iambrianmuhia@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:26:33 +0000
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Thanks, Dave. I'll check them out.

Something I currently think is very cool is the Distill journal, at
https://distill.pub, edited by Shan Carter and Chris Olah.

I would love to see more ML tutorials​ and lessons written in that style.
They're​accepting submissions for tutorials, I think, so if any ML expert
here would like to explain any technique in an explorable manner, please
reach out to them.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, 21:17 David Meyer, <dmm@1-4-5.net> wrote:

> Hey Brian,
>
> We are working on anomaly detection technologies to detect things like
> DDOS attacks; we're about to publish some results and will let you know
> when that is ready. In the mean time, you might want to look at attacks
> against ML itself, see [0], [1], and [2].  The bottom line here is that
> even simple linear models are susceptible to adversarial attacks, so things
> like the autoencoders we used to do binary classification (e.g., anomaly
> detection) are susceptible; see slides 16+ of [3].
>
> Dave
>
> [0] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1312.6199.pdf
> [1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.6572.pdf
> [2] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1602.02697.pdf
> [3] http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/ml/talks/2016/cor_ml4networking.pdf
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Brian Njenga <iambrianmuhia@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm glad that the discussions​ on how to make AI/ML useful in the design
> of the internet's architecture are continuing, albeit under a different
> name. I'd like to participate remotely as well.
>
> I have a question that someone more thoughtful​ than I could answer: Are
> there research questions on how to anticipate network-threatening DDOS
> attacks, such as those coming from the Mirai botnet family, using ML? Even
> going as far as designing and standardising an efficient, secure network
> protocol for IoT devices. This is a complicated issue, which involves
> emerging markets, so I'm interested in useful ideas from any angle.
>
> Thanks, and I'm glad to meet you all.
>
> Best regards,
> Brian Muhia.
>
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, 20:02 Oscar Mauricio Caicedo Rendon, <
> omcaicedo@unicauca.edu.co> wrote:
>
> Hi, all,
>
> If there is a meeting, I would like to participate remotely.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Oscar
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, all,
>
> Although there are many understanding for Intelligence-Defined Network, we
> are actually using this IDN as a term reference to the SDN-beyond
> architecture that we presented in IETF97, see the below link. A reference
> model is presented in page 3, while potential standardization works is
> presented in page 9.
>
>
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/slides/slides-97-nmlrg-intelligence-defined-network-01.pdf
>
> Although it might be a little bit too early for AI/ML in network giving
> the recent story of the concluded proposed NMLRG, we still would like to
> call for interests in IDN. Anybody (on site in Chicago this week) are
> interested in this or even wider topics regarding to AI/ML in network,
> please contact me on jiangsheng@huawei.com . Then we may have an informal
> meeting to discuss some common interests and potential future activities
> (not any activities in IETF, but also other STO or experimental trails,
> etc.)  on Thursday morning.
>
> FYI, we have already working on a Work Item, called IDN in the ETSI NGP
> (Next Generation Protocol) ISG, links below.
>
> https://portal.etsi.org/tb.aspx?tbid=844&SubTB=844
> https://portal.etsi.org/webapp/WorkProgram/Report_WorkItem.asp?WKI_ID=51011
>
> Meanwhile, please do use this mail list as a forum to discuss any topics
> that may applying AI/ML into network area.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sheng
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