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Re: COVID-19 contacts tracker (Re: a brief pondering)

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Wed, 15 April 2020 16:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: COVID-19 contacts tracker (Re: a brief pondering)
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 4/15/20 12:07 PM, Benoit Claise wrote:

> Hi,
>>
>> Which leads me to a question: what can this community (and 
>> similar/adjacent ones) do productively together to help? What new 
>> things are happening on the network from which we can learn and 
>> quickly adapt/improve?
>>
> In my wish list, I would see this community helping with a COVID-19 
> contacts tracker:
>     - with clear specifications
>     - that respects the privacy concerns, for all parties

I don't think it's possible.  Anything that can be used to trace 
contacts for medical purposes can be used to trace contacts for 
political purposes.

Keith

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