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Re: [hrpc] Ten years after Snowden (2013 - 2023), is IETF keeping its promises?

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Wed, 04 January 2023 17:48 UTC

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Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 10:22:04 -0500
From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
To: Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Ten years after Snowden (2013 - 2023), is IETF keeping its promises?
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2023, Vittorio Bertola wrote:

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> I still think this was a big fail; in fact, this implies that counteraction against surveillance capitalism practices
> can only happen elsewhere, at the regulatory level, as the IETF community either does not know what to do about it, or does not
> want to do anything about it.

What about TLS 1.3 ? It's so good at countering surveillance capitalism
practices, that middleware vendors and the regulatory level is trying
to do things via "magic" to enable non-PFS decryptable encryption again.

Paul

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