Re: [hrpc] [saag] [Pearg] Ten years after Snowden (2013 - 2023), is IETF keeping its promises?

Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Fri, 06 January 2023 08:43 UTC

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From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2023 10:44:06 +0200
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] [saag] [Pearg] Ten years after Snowden (2013 - 2023), is IETF keeping its promises?
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On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 1:59 PM Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski.netmagic@gmail.com>
wrote:

> With NIS2 coming now coming into force, and the CRA being finalized,
> sorting out some of the threats is underway, although there are now 50
> relevant EU Directives and 55 EU Regulations in force with 16 coming into
> force in 2023 at present count...plus an assortment of Decisions and
> Resolutions that all effect electronic communication mandates.  Most of
> them have extraterritorial application.  In the real world, there are many
> competing requirements, and as Meta recently found out, with significant
> adverse consequences for non-compliance.  It is worth noting that while
> this list resides in the IETF domain, there are several hundred standards
> bodies - many of which are far larger, encompassing more of industry, and
> more relevant than the IETF.  So to borrow a Clint Eastwood phrase, a venue
> has got to know its limitations.
>

IMHO, any business has no limitations in all markets as long it is legal
(i.e. within market policy), so IETF Business/Work can grow only if we
don't worry about limitations and don't worry about competitors within our
markets/worlds. The *real world* (e.g. including markets) is trying to
become real+virtual_world, so now the World is changing its
work_limitations and work_structure, and it is directing toward IP
technologies. So that makes other standard_bodies limited also, and that
makes IETF expand.

AB