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Re: [hrpc] Ten years after Snowden (2013 - 2023), is IETF keeping its promises?

Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com> Tue, 03 January 2023 23:10 UTC

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From: Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2023 18:10:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Ten years after Snowden (2013 - 2023), is IETF keeping its promises?
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
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It's thrilling to see a thread about protocols in the HRPC context.

Structural changes are needed to IETF protocols to promote human rights
considerations. Some of these, like this thread, look like privacy. Others,
like the GNAP discussions (
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hrpc/FW78YvFerkFHsrYDFcSWp-SYNqI/),
are about human rights impact of forced association.

HRPC needs exactly this kind of discussion instead of distracting changes
to the charter in the direction of policy.

I hope HRPC and related groups review our 5-year history as evidence before
we suggest changes to the charter.

- Adrian


On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 5:54 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> I like to also point at some developments in the marketplace such as
> zerotier and especially tailscale, for how things have evolved since.
>
> These new vpn types are very promising, wireguard in particular has
> taken off everywhere. It would be good for more IETFers to try these
> new tools and/or embrace them.
>
> The rise of the fediverse is also interesting, as are the protocols
> and software being designed and deployed by matrix.org.
>
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