Re: [iucg] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm
Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Mon, 13 August 2012 09:11 UTC
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On Mon 13/Aug/2012 03:22:52 +0200 JFC Morfin wrote: > At 19:16 11/08/2012, John C Klensin wrote: > >> On the other hand, irrational behavior would be nothing new in this >> area so I can't disagree with the possibility. > > Correct. This is why, if I understand the motivation, I strongly > disagree with the wording of the document and your evaluation of the > situation. The US/IETF rationale being used is disagreed by non-US > related industries and most probably by every Government (including > the USG) because it looks like SDOs wanted to decide alone, based upon > market results, about the standards for the people they represent. FWIW, I'd like to recall that several governments endorse IETF protocols by establishing Internet based procedures for official communications with the relevant PA, possibly giving them legal standing. Francesco Gennai presented a brief review of such procedures[*] at the APPSAWG meeting in Paris. At the time, John Klensin suggested that, while a more in-depth review of existing practices would be appreciated, the ITU is a more suitable body for the standardization of a unified, compatible protocol for certified email, because of those governmental involvements. [*] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-appsawg-1.pdf
- Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm IETF Chair
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm SM
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Eric Burger
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Eggert, Lars
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm SM
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Randy Bush
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Stephen Farrell
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm GTW
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Noel Chiappa
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm John C Klensin
- RE: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Paul Hoffman
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Tobias Gondrom
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm SM
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Michael Tuexen
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Yoav Nir
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Yoav Nir
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Noel Chiappa
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Scott O Bradner
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Carsten Bormann
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Allison Mankin
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Scott O Bradner
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm SM
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Yoav Nir
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm ALAIN AINA
- Re: [iucg] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Par… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [iucg] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Par… John C Klensin
- Re: [iucg] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Par… Eric Burger
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- Re: [iucg] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Par… ALAIN AINA
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- Re: [iucg] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Par… John C Klensin
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- Re: Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm IETF Chair
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