Re: [iucg] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 14 August 2012 14:11 UTC
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--On Monday, August 13, 2012 22:26 -0400 Eric Burger <eburger-l@standardstrack.com> wrote: > +1. The ITU is not evil. It just is not the right place for > Internet standards development. As John points out, there are > potential uses of the ITU-T for good. Eric, I'd narrow your first statement further and say "Internet technical standards development" or "Internet protocol standards development". There are, at least potentially, other categories. Those at least mostly fall outside the IETF's scope and there may well be useful work for the ITU to do in some of them. I find it interesting that ISO and many of their Member Bodies (including, fwiw, ANSI) make a careful distinction between standards that have direct bearing on safety issues and other types... and use different approval criteria for the former. The IETF doesn't do safety standards (emergency reporting is really not in that category) and I'm not quite sure what a safety standard at the IP layer or above would look like (I can imagine some at physical layer, but we don't do those either). If there were such a thing as a safety standard involving communications technology, I could imagine an ITU role there (although I can't think of any examples for which ISO/IEC JTC1 would not be more appropriate). I don't see that as contradicting the proposed statement in any way although, if we had more opportunity to quibble about wording, I might think some fine-tuning was in order. john
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