RE: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom

["Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" <[e-mail]>]

Maybe I am mistaken, but I perceived one change for this NomCom round : we used to be able to volunteer for the NomCom by just clicking a box in the registration process, and I didn’t see this option this year.
Instead I had to send an email to be registered (a process somewhat automated later).
It is possible that this change of habit has disrupted the flow of NomCom applications.
One way of knowing would be to resume the NomCom box in the next registration cycle and see if we get different outcomes.
Best regards,
Julien.

From: ietf <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Mary B
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 3:22 PM
To: Michael StJohns <[e-mail]>
Cc: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom



On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 8:12 PM Michael StJohns <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
On 6/27/2021 8:00 PM, Mary B wrote:
[MB] Per the process, I don't think that it allows more than *2*  from a single company.  So, I think the problem isn't as bad as some perceive.  Personally, I see the bigger problem as the fact that *many* that were qualified didn't volunteer.  [/MB]

The problem (IMNSHO) is that, statistically, if you (company) have a large enough proportion of the pool, you have a pretty much guaranteed probability of having 2 members.   If you have 2 members for every nomcom, you can have a disproportionate impact in the overall composition of the leadership of the IETF over time.

FWIR, Huawei has had 2 Nomcom members for most of the last 5-8 Nomcoms.  Cisco, Ericsson and Juniper have also had substantial representation.

That may represent personal diversity, but it does not represent commercial diversity.
[MB]  So, yeah, this is not a new problem and is reflective of the fact that folks from some companies have more support for their IETF work than others. So, perhaps, we reduce it to 1 from a single company. But, again, that's not a process change we can push through in time for this Nomcom.  The bigger problem in my view is still the fact that a lot of folks that might be qualified haven't volunteered.   [/MB]

Later, Mike