Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Sun, 27 June 2021 23:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom
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On 6/27/2021 5:25 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
>      > While I agree we probably have the time to reopen it, we can't just
>      > decide to do so.  We can't simply change the procedures because we want
>      > to (particularly note when "we" is some vocal subset of the community.)
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> I agree.

I actually disagree.  This is about setting the pool.  Unlike things 
like deciding to re-select the members or suggesting that if a Huawei 
member is ineligible, then the appropriate replacement is another Huawei 
member, (see many discussions in prior years), increasing the pool 
*might* decrease Huawei/Futurewei's opportunity to get members, but the 
probabilities of that are pretty small.

Right now, 6 companies own 67/112 of the pool and will probably get 
about 4-6 members.  The pool (112) is smaller than I remember in any of 
the last 5-10 years (anecdotal rather than actually checking the data).  
It would be good to try and increase the pool back to previous levels 
near 160+.


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>      > Look folks, I am not happy with the lack of diversity.  But the
>      > solution to that was to get folks to volunteer.  I didn't push as hard
>      > as I should have. Probably because I do not htink chair pushing helps
>      > much. But I did forward the announcement to remind folks.  To all three
>      > of my working groups.  I doubt it mattered.
>
> I think that the best way to "push" is where it goes through company internal email
> from the CTO or whomever pays for IETF attendance.
>
> I wonder if some people volunteer, hoping that it will mean that they'll
> "have" to travel to IETF.

That may be the case.  Which may explain the size of the pool.

Mike


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