Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Sun, 27 June 2021 23:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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From: Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
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On 6/26/2021 3:05 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
> This has provided a statistical basis for my conclusion on initially seeing this list. I imagine I am not alone.
>
> This Nomcom volunteer pool is insufficiently diverse.
>
> I think the chair needs to extend the time to volunteer and encourage a more diverse pool.

I think that this might be the least incorrect approach.


>
> Normally the timeline is set by a need to physically meet at the summer IETF, but that does not apply this year so there is more time to make the selection.
>
> Stewart
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 26 Jun 2021, at 00:05, Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi - No challenges, but an observation or two.
>>
>> There are only 6 companies with more than two volunteers:
>>
>> Cisco - 7  (6.3% of the pool, 47% chance of having at least one member, 12.6% of having 2).
>> Juniper - 9 (8% of the pool, 57% chance of having at least one member, 18.9% of having 2)
>> Ericsson - 4 (3.6%, 30.5%, 4.7%)
>> ZTE - 3 (2.7%, 23.8%, 2.8%)
>> Akamai - 3 (2.7%, 23.8%, 2.8%)
>> Huawei/Futurewei - 41 (36.6, 99%, 93%)
>>
>> A SWAG against that numbers suggests a Nomcom with 2 members from Huawai/Futurewei, 1-2 members from Cisco and Juniper (not each, total) and a 60% chance of having at least 1 member from one of Ericsson, Akamai or ZTE.
>>
>> 2 person companies represent (each) 1.8% of the pool, have a 16.5% chance of having at least one member,  and have a 1.3% chance of having two.
>>
>> The numbers are not exact because of the organizational limit factor - e.g. individuals and 2 party companies (totalling 112-67 or 45)  are roughly competing for the slots (4-6 slots at a guess) not won by these 5, which gives those folk individually a 8.3% to 11.9% chance of selection depending on the number of slots available.
>>
>> For an illustration of what affect the organizational limits have on the final composition of the Nomcom,  without the limits, or with higher ones, Huawei/Futurewei would have a 77% chance of 3 or more members, a  53% chance of 4 or more members and a 28.5% chance of 5 or more.   That suggests that due to the limits, in this selection process at least 2 or more volunteers will be selected randomly and discarded due to there already being 2 selectees from that group.
>>
>> Yours statistically, Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 6/25/2021 4:46 PM, NomCom Chair 2021 wrote:
>>> This is a preliminary list of 112 qualified volunteers for NomCom 2021-2022.
>>>
>>> All have been qualified by using the Datatracker as qualified for the position of voting
>>> member of NomCom per RFC 8989.
>>>
>>> We now enter the challenge period, which lasts until the following deadline:
>>>
>>> Monday, July 5, 2021 at 23:59 UTC (Deadline for raising issues on the qualified volunteers list)
>>>
>>> If anyone thinks that a name on the numbered list below is NOT qualified for some
>>> reason, please send me email before this deadline at:
>>>
>>> nomcom-chair-2021 at ietf dot org
>>>
>>> The next steps are listed on https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2021/ (e.g., I will announce
>>> random seed selections for the RFC 3797 process shortly).
>>>
>>> The preliminary qualified volunteers are:
>>>
>>>    Num    Last Name        First Name                   Affiliation
>>> ===================================================================
>>>      1    Aelmans          Melchior                     Juniper Networks
>>>      2    Bagdonas         Ignas                        Equinix
>>>      3    Banks            Sarah                        Corelight, Inc.
>>>      4    Barnes           Mary                         Independent
>>>      5    Beeram           Vishnu                       Juniper Networks
>>>      6    Benamar          Nabil                        Moulay Ismail University of Meknes, Morocco
>>>      7    Bertola          Vittorio                     Open-Xchange
>>>      8    Bishop           Mike                         Akamai Technologies
>>>      9    Bonica           Ron                          Juniper Networks
>>>     10    Box              Chris                        BT
>>>     11    Burdet           LucAndré                     Cisco
>>>     12    Bush             Randy                        IIJ Research Lab & Arrcus Inc
>>>     13    Busi             Italo                        Huawei
>>>     14    Chen             Mach                         Huawei
>>>     15    Chen             Huaimo                       Futurewei
>>>     16    Cheng            Weiqiang                     China Mobile
>>>     17    Ciavaglia        Laurent                      Rakuten
>>>     18    Clemm            Alexander                    Futurewei
>>>     19    Dhody            Dhruv                        Huawei
>>>     20    Dong             Jie                          Huawei Technologies
>>>     21    Drake            John                         Juniper Networks
>>>     22    Eastlake         Donald                       Futurewei Technologies, Inc
>>>     23    Eckel            Charles                      Cisco Systems
>>>     24    Eckert           Toerless                     Futurewei USA
>>>     25    Enghardt         Theresa                      Netflix
>>>     26    Fan              Dawei                        Huawei
>>>     27    Farrell          Stephen                      Trinity College Dublin
>>>     28    Fioccola         Giuseppe                     Huawei Technologies
>>>     29    Fomin            Sergey                       Nokia
>>>     30    Fossati          Thomas                       Arm
>>>     31    Geng             Xuesong                      Huawei
>>>     32    Gondwana         Bron                         Fastmail Pty Ltd
>>>     33    Gu               Yunan                        Huawei
>>>     34    Gundavelli       Sri                          Cisco
>>>     35    Haas             Jeffrey                      Juniper Networks
>>>     36    Haddad           Wassim                       Ericsson
>>>     37    Hallam-Baker     Phillip                      Threshold Secrets LLC
>>>     38    Harrison         Tom                          APNIC
>>>     39    Hegde            Shraddha                     Juniper Networks
>>>     40    Heitz            Jakob                        Cisco Systems, Inc.
>>>     41    Hopps            Christian                    LabN Consulting
>>>     42    Housley          Russ                         Vigil Security, LLC
>>>     43    Huitema          Christian                    Private Octopus Inc.
>>>     44    Iannone          Luigi                        Huawei
>>>     45    Jimenez          Jaime                        Ericsson
>>>     46    Lear             Eliot                        Cisco Systems
>>>     47    Leiba            Barry                        Futurewei Technologies
>>>     48    Lemon            Ted                          Apple
>>>     49    Li               Cheng                        Huawei
>>>     50    Li               Richard                      Futurewei Technologies, Inc.
>>>     51    Li               Yizhou                       Huawei
>>>     52    Lin              Yi                           Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
>>>     53    Liu              Bing                         Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd.
>>>     54    Lou              Zhe                          Huawei Technologies Duesseldorf GmbH
>>>     55    Maisonneuve      Julien                       Nokia
>>>     56    Makhijani        Kiran                        Futurewei
>>>     57    Mankin           Allison                      Salesforce
>>>     58    Masinter         Larry                        Interlisp.org
>>>     59    Mattsson         John                         Ericsson
>>>     60    McManus          Patrick                      Fastly
>>>     61    Michaelson       George                       APNIC
>>>     62    Min              Xiao                         ZTE Corporation
>>>     63    Mishra           Sanjay                       Verizon
>>>     64    Mizrahi          Tal                          Huawei
>>>     65    Moore            Keith                        Network Heretics
>>>     66    Nottingham       Mark                         Fastly
>>>     67    Paine            Kirsty                       UK National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC)
>>>     68    Pan              Wei                          Huawei
>>>     69    Peng             Shuping                      Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd.
>>>     70    Petit-Huguenin   Marc                         Impedance Mismatch LLC
>>>     71    Pillay-Esnault   Padma                        Independent, Amazon
>>>     72    Qu               Yingzhen                     Futurewei Technologies Inc.
>>>     73    Reid             Jim                          rtfm llp
>>>     74    Rescorla         Eric                         Mozilla
>>>     75    Resnick          Pete                         Episteme Technology Consulting LLC
>>>     76    Richardson       Michael                      Sandelman Software Works
>>>     77    Romano           Simon                        University of Napoli Federico II
>>>     78    Rose             Kyle                         Akamai Technologies, Inc.
>>>     79    Saad             Tarek                        Juniper Networks
>>>     80    Salz             Rich                         Akamai
>>>     81    Sangli           Srihari                      Juniper Networks
>>>     82    Schwartz         Benjamin                     Google LLC
>>>     83    Song             Haoyu                        Futurewei
>>>     84    StJohns          Michael                      NthPermutation Security
>>>     85    Thubert          Pascal                       Cisco Systems
>>>     86    Trøan            Ole                          cisco
>>>     87    Tschofenig       Hannes                       Arm
>>>     88    Velvindron       Loganaden                    cyberstorm.mu
>>>     89    Volpato          Paolo                        Huawei Technologies
>>>     90    Wang             Haibo                        Huawei
>>>     91    Wang             Yali                         Huawei
>>>     92    Wei              Yuehua                       ZTE Corporation
>>>     93    Weiler           Samuel                       W3C/MIT
>>>     94    Westerlund       Magnus                       Ericsson
>>>     95    Winters          Timothy                      QA Cafe
>>>     96    Woolf            Suzanne                      Public Interest Registry (.ORG)
>>>     97    Wu               Bo                           Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd.
>>>     98    Xiao             XiPeng                       Huawei Technologies
>>>     99    Xie              Jingrong                     Huawei Technologies
>>>     100   Xingjian         He                           huawei
>>>     101   Yan              Gang                         Huawei
>>>     102   Yang             Fan                          Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd.
>>>     103   Yu               Yolanda                      Huawei
>>>     104   Zhang            Lixia                        UCLA
>>>     105   Zhang            Zheng                        ZTE
>>>     106   Zhang            Zhaohui                      Juniper
>>>     107   Zhao             Shuai                        Tencent
>>>     108   Zheng            Guangying                    Huawei
>>>     109   Zheng            Haomian                      Huawei Technologies
>>>     110   Zhou             Tianran                      Huawei
>>>     111   Zhuang           Shunwan                      Huawei
>>>     112   江元龙                                         Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
>>>