Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom

Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com> Mon, 28 June 2021 00:00 UTC

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From: Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:00:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 6:07 PM Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On 6/27/2021 5:25 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> >      > While I agree we probably have the time to reopen it, we can't
> just
> >      > decide to do so.  We can't simply change the procedures because
> we want
> >      > to (particularly note when "we" is some vocal subset of the
> community.)
> >
> > I agree.
>
> I actually disagree.  This is about setting the pool.  Unlike things
> like deciding to re-select the members or suggesting that if a Huawei
> member is ineligible, then the appropriate replacement is another Huawei
> member, (see many discussions in prior years), increasing the pool
> *might* decrease Huawei/Futurewei's opportunity to get members, but the
> probabilities of that are pretty small.
>
> Right now, 6 companies own 67/112 of the pool and will probably get
> about 4-6 members.  The pool (112) is smaller than I remember in any of
> the last 5-10 years (anecdotal rather than actually checking the data).
> It would be good to try and increase the pool back to previous levels
> near 160+.
>
> [MB] Per the process, I don't think that it allows more than *2*  from a
single company.  So, I think the problem isn't as bad as some perceive.
Personally, I see the bigger problem as the fact that *many* that were
qualified didn't volunteer.  [/MB]

>
> >
> >      > Look folks, I am not happy with the lack of diversity.  But the
> >      > solution to that was to get folks to volunteer.  I didn't push as
> hard
> >      > as I should have. Probably because I do not htink chair pushing
> helps
> >      > much. But I did forward the announcement to remind folks.  To all
> three
> >      > of my working groups.  I doubt it mattered.
> >
> > I think that the best way to "push" is where it goes through company
> internal email
> > from the CTO or whomever pays for IETF attendance.
> >
> > I wonder if some people volunteer, hoping that it will mean that they'll
> > "have" to travel to IETF.
>
> That may be the case.  Which may explain the size of the pool.
>
> Mike
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT
> consulting )
> >             Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
> >
> >
> >
> >
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