Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to-Face and Virtual Interim Meetings
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Fri, 11 December 2015 09:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to-Face and Virtual Interim Meetings
To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
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Hi Dan, I understand your arguments: cost and the ease of having a meetecho/webex these days. However, I've been in at least one interim meeting focused on white board sessions. And, even with all the good will, white board sessions and remote participations, just don't work together. I favor a should in your initial sentence: "Remote participation (via Meetecho or similar) must be provided" Regards, Benoit > Hi Jari, > > I oscillated between 'should' and 'must' myself. The principal reason I ended with a 'must' was that agreeing on exceptions can be perceived as excluding people from the process. In the real world some of us live justifying funds for 1-2 days interim of one WG is more difficult than getting a full IETF week approved. Remote participation is the only option. The 'must' requirement also seems pretty ubiquitous nowadays - it translates into 'the host of a f2f interim must ensure that a microphone and external phone connection exists in the room and the chairs must activate Meetecho or Webex'. > > Regards, > > Dan > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net] >> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 10:02 PM >> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) >> Cc: ietf@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to-Face and >> Virtual Interim Meetings >> >> Dan, >> >>> I suggest to add the following bullet to the face-to-face interim guidelines: >>> >>> - Remote participation (via Meetecho or similar) must be provided >> I think that's a good addition, although I'd probably use the keyword 'should' >> to leave some wiggle room for special situations. We don't need to specify >> everything that the working groups do as rules. >> If the WG has reasonable leadership, they will do the right thing. >> >> Jari > . >
- For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to… IESG Secretary
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Dave Crocker
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Eliot Lear
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Adrian Farrel
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Jari Arkko
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Thomas Narten
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Benoit Claise
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Jari Arkko
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Benoit Claise
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Benoit Claise
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Harald Alvestrand
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Nadeau Thomas
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Nadeau Thomas
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Dave Crocker
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Ben Campbell
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Dave Crocker
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Alia Atlas
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Michael Richardson
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Yoav Nir
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Michael Richardson
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Brian E Carpenter
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