Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to-Face and Virtual Interim Meetings
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Fri, 11 December 2015 09:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to-Face and Virtual Interim Meetings
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I'm happy to see Adrian pointing out that this is an update, not a de novo policy. I'm not so happy to see that the IESG didn't include this information (and a "what's changed" summary) in the announcement. Attached is a wdiff (with some line formatting added by me). Important points: - Formatting: Face-to-face and virtual meetings each get their own bulleted list of requirements. - More positive noises about mailing lists in the introduction. - Acknowledgement that some WGs hold bi-weekly or even weekly interims - An expectation that virtual interims will become more commonplace over time - A statement that the rules in this statmement "must be obeyed" - New rules for approving extended sequences of virtual meetings - Virtual meetings get shorter timelines (4->1 week for announcement, 2->1 week for agenda) - Uploading to the datatracker of minutes get mentioned The biggest deal seems to me to be that virtual meetings in series (right up to weekly!!!!) are now a blessed IETF procedure. Personally, I feel that weekly meetings can be *very* effective - but they are also *very* exclusionary. The number of people in a working group who can tolerate another weekly phone call in the average working group is likely counted on one hand - perhaps two if the WG is intensely popular - and these will usually be the people who are already full time committed to the design that is being pursued. My impression is that we should call these meetings "editor meetings", "design team meetings" or something else - but expecting a *WG* to show up at weekly phonecalls is a Really Bad Idea, and we shouldn't encorage more WGs adopting such a practice. Harald
- For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to… IESG Secretary
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Dave Crocker
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Eliot Lear
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Adrian Farrel
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Jari Arkko
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Thomas Narten
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Benoit Claise
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Jari Arkko
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Benoit Claise
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Benoit Claise
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Harald Alvestrand
- RE: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Nadeau Thomas
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Nadeau Thomas
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Dave Crocker
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Ben Campbell
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Dave Crocker
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Alia Atlas
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Michael Richardson
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Yoav Nir
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Michael Richardson
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Fac… Andrew Sullivan