Re: For Review: IESG Statement on Guidance on Face-to-Face and Virtual Interim Meetings

["Ben Campbell" <[e-mail]>]

On 11 Dec 2015, at 3:42, Harald Alvestrand wrote:

[...]

>
> The biggest deal seems to me to be that virtual meetings in series
> (right up to weekly!!!!) are now a blessed IETF procedure.
>
> Personally, I feel that weekly meetings can be *very* effective - but
> they are also *very* exclusionary. The number of people in a working
> group who can tolerate another weekly phone call in the average 
> working
> group is likely counted on one hand - perhaps two if the WG is 
> intensely
> popular - and these will usually be the people who are already full 
> time
> committed to the design that is being pursued.

I agree. I think this is a matter of balancing efficiency with 
inclusiveness. That balance will vary by working group, and hopefully 
the chairs can do the right thing for their group.

>
> My impression is that we should call these meetings "editor meetings",
> "design team meetings" or something else - but expecting a *WG* to 
> show
> up at weekly phonecalls is a Really Bad Idea, and we shouldn't 
> encorage
> more WGs adopting such a practice.

I don't disagree, but we should be careful about meetings that are 
labeled as "design team" or "editor" meetings, but still walk and quack 
like interim meetings. If such meetings are announced to the entire 
working group and cover general working group topics, they are probably 
interims regardless of what you call them.

Ben.