Re: Non routable IPv6 registry proposal

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 21 January 2021 02:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: Non routable IPv6 registry proposal
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>, IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@ietf.org>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Michael,

> While ULAs and privacy enhanced addresses have important uses for individual
> privacy, when it comes to non-moving business/enterprise infrastructure,
> audit and accountability is much more important, and ULA-R does not satisfy
> that.

How is that problem solved today for RFC 1918 addresses?

Regards
   Brian