Re: Tolerance

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 17 July 2019 00:14 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tolerance
To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, ietf@ietf.org
Cc: douglasroyer@gmail.com
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Hi John,

On 17-Jul-19 11:11, John Levine wrote:
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> What does M3AAWG know that we don't?
> 
> The conduct policy is here:  https://www.m3aawg.org/conduct-policy

There's little there that (in a less organized form) doesn't apply to the IETF (via the mailing list exclusion mechanisms, the anti-harassment policy, the ombudsteam, etc.)

Yes, we could post a unified code of conduct and that would be a good thing. I forget why there was no follow-up to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-odell-code-of-conduct

But the real answer to your question is here IMHO:

https://www.m3aawg.org/join

It's a formal membership organization, with membership fees, and the threat of expulsion is real and meaningful. That's an option that the IETF doesn't really have.

Regards
    Brian