Re: IAOC Request for community feedback
Olaf Kolkman <olaf@NLnetLabs.nl> Thu, 01 November 2012 14:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: IAOC Request for community feedback
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On Oct 23, 2012, at 1:49 AM, The IAOC <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote: > The IAOC is requesting feedback from the community concerning a > vacancy that the IAOC feels is not adequately covered by existing IETF > rules. > > Marshall Eubanks has been a active IETF participant for many years and > a member of the IAOC since 2009. However, he recently stopped > participating in the IAOC and Trust. First: I cannot help to think there is a personal tragedy behind all this. I hope Marshall makes it back to this community because I will miss him. [ deep breath ] That said, I believe Bob made a case: Regardless of definition there seems to be a problem. Reading this thread I am sensitive to the arguments that we have a process that prevents people being removed without due diligence and I understand that if one does not follow the procedure one may be creating dangerous and exploitable precedents. However, I also feel we should -as an organization- be more pragmatic at times. It seems that the IAOC is trying to be diligent in solving a delicate situation most transparently and try to have buy in from the community. This is the type of pragmatism that is IMHO lives not to the letter but to the spirit of our documents. Therefore, without wanting to set precedent, I support this cause of action. I also offer my signature under the recall procedure, in case pragmatism doesn't prevail. --Olaf NLnet Labs Olaf M. Kolkman www.NLnetLabs.nl olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Science Park 400, 1098 XH Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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