Re: [ippm] WGLC for draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets-01.txt

[Henk Uijterwaal <[e-mail]>]

Ruediger,

> could you clarify your idea of the process making value-added-octets an informational?

As I said before, I think it is good to have a document describing the prototype
developped by the authors, that has been reviewed by the entire WG for clarity
and completeness.  We do not agree on the problem that there is to be solved, we
don't agree either if this is the best solution, but I believe we agree that the
prototype solves something close to the actual problem.  That suggests, at least
to me, to make it an informational document that can be properly referenced in
the future.  Note that I have specifically never asked for consensus about the
problem statement or the solution chosen, just if the description is clear.


> I agree with Al and Yaakov that it is not appropriate incorporate features discussed
> under note well into an IPR protected solution. I don't think it is apropriate to continue to
> change technical features described in this publication before it's IETF stamped as informational .
> It is not relevant whether these changes are small. Apart from that the authors refuse to refer to
> other IETF work while they seem to integrate functionality resulting from this work into their
> prototype. If that's true (and it again doesn't matter whether changes are big or small), it's
> not agreeable.

I'm not sure if I understand this.  There is the prototype (with IPR), there are
suggestions made by others (under the note-well). The latter have been
incorporated into the prototype, but, as far as I understand, that doesn't
put them under the IPR.  In other words, we can still use those suggestions
in another solution when we come to that.  Or am I missing something here?

Henk

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