Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Vehicle Safety Airwaves

Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Tue, 17 December 2019 10:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Vehicle Safety Airwaves
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Hi Alex,

I think it is still a debate and not final decision, IMO it is not possible
change the spectrum while people are already using it and paid money for
it, therefore, it is only a future plan and may not be applied in all
locations in the US. Also I would like to know the opinion of US
participants on this issue please.

AB

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:59 AM Alexandre Petrescu <
alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Le 17/12/2019 à 01:01, Russ Housley a écrit :
> >
> https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/fcc-moves-plan-forward-to-chop-up-vehicle-safety-airwaves/
> [...]
> > The FCC plan would divide 75 MHz of the safety spectrum between WiFi
> > and auto safety applications. The FCC proposal allocates 20 MHz for a
> > newer V2X technology, known as C-V2X, and leaves 10 MHz for either
> > C-V2X or DSRC.
>

AB> they will need to deliver the technology and implement it,

It is indeed a plan that invites to think about the future.

An implementation of IPv6 over OCB that uses a 20MHz channel, instead of
10MHz, would no longer be 'illegal'.

I would like to ask whether FCC considers this potential C-V2X 20MHz
channel to still be free of use for everyone (like the current 5.9GHz
band) or will it be licensed and paid for? (like e.g. the 2.6 GHz band
of LTE).

AB> I think it should be like WiFi usedby all free,

Alex



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