Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Vehicle Safety Airwaves
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Tue, 17 December 2019 12:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Vehicle Safety Airwaves
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in addition to wondering what it means C-V2X one might wonder whether C-V2X supports IPv6 or not? also one might wonder whether FCC still considers IPv6 for vehicular communications? and, if FCC keeps only the 5895-5905MHz channel, also called Control Channel, for DSRC, and on which it still would like to forbid (and other times to not forbid) IPv6, then one wonders whether the IPv6-over-OCB spec can be of any use anymore. Alex Le 17/12/2019 à 13:05, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : > > > Le 17/12/2019 à 12:05, Abdussalam Baryun a écrit : >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:59 PM Alexandre Petrescu >> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> have people elsewhere paid money to get a license to talk in the >> 5.9GHz >> space? >> >> in the article is says the tax payers will be apposing because the >> cities already used money for the DSRC, and it mentions that FCC plan >> will KILL and waste a lot of money of city investment by city covernment. > > Right, I think it is the money they spent on deploying the DSRC > technology, not on spectrum. > > That is indeed lots of money in itself. Even in Europe there are > numerous deployments of RSUs permanently attached to poles along > highways. All these RSUs and their spectrum were created and reserved > by starting from USA initiatives on DSRC. > > I wonder what happens to all these investments in Europe if USA changes > tack with respect to 5.9GHz allocation to 802.11-OCB. > > I think there are large misunderstandings in this FCC plan. > > There are other ideas that were discussed privately and publicly about > reserving spectrum for a particular technology (spectrum should be > reserved for application kind, not for a particular PHY or MAC - in that > sense it seems strange to refuse DSRC but allocate for C-V2X), and about > reserving spectrum but still free of use (how can one reserve something > but still allow every one to do whatever they want in it). There are > many contradictions. > > Alex > >> >> AB >> >> (not in Europe a single person paid such money) >> >> Le 17/12/2019 à 11:56, Abdussalam Baryun a écrit : >> > Hi Alex, >> > >> > I think it is still a debate and not final decision, IMO it is not >> > possible change the spectrum while people are already using it >> and paid >> > money for it, therefore, it is only a future plan and may not be >> applied >> > in all locations in the US. Also I would like to know the opinion >> of US >> > participants on this issue please. >> > >> > AB >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:59 AM Alexandre Petrescu >> > <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com >> <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> >> <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com >> <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Le 17/12/2019 à 01:01, Russ Housley a écrit : >> > > >> > >> >> https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/fcc-moves-plan-forward-to-chop-up-vehicle-safety-airwaves/ >> >> > [...] >> > > The FCC plan would divide 75 MHz of the safety spectrum >> between WiFi >> > > and auto safety applications. The FCC proposal allocates >> 20 MHz for a >> > > newer V2X technology, known as C-V2X, and leaves 10 MHz >> for either >> > > C-V2X or DSRC. >> > >> > >> > AB> they will need to deliver the technology and implement it, >> > >> > It is indeed a plan that invites to think about the future. >> > >> > An implementation of IPv6 over OCB that uses a 20MHz channel, >> instead of >> > 10MHz, would no longer be 'illegal'. >> > >> > I would like to ask whether FCC considers this potential C-V2X >> 20MHz >> > channel to still be free of use for everyone (like the current >> 5.9GHz >> > band) or will it be licensed and paid for? (like e.g. the 2.6 GHz >> band >> > of LTE). >> > >> > AB> I think it should be like WiFi usedby all free, >> > >> > Alex >> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > its mailing list >> > > its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> <mailto:its@ietf.org >> <mailto:its@ietf.org>> >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > its mailing list >> > its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> <mailto:its@ietf.org >> <mailto:its@ietf.org>> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >> > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its
- [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Vehicl… Russ Housley
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Jérôme Härri
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Jérôme Härri
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan (was: Re: FCC… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan (was: Re:… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan fygsimon@gmail.com
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Chris Shen
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan, and a no… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan, and a no… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan - related… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan - related… Alexandre Petrescu