Re: [Json] Proposal: the minimal edit

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Tue, 25 June 2013 10:19 UTC

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On Jun 25, 2013, at 08:36, R S <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

>  The crux of the matter is that the JavaScript implementations will not change, and they are material to the success of JSON and this Working Group, so they need to be documented.

I completely agree with the need for documenting the JSON usage that has developed in that community.
We seem to have painted ourselves into a corner a bit by distinguishing the "standard" from a "best practices document", which is likely to cause endless debate which community usage gets documented where.

(The context of my message, however, was the interpretation that there is an ambiguity in RFC 4627 with respect to its Unicode usage, and I was trying to imagine how that interpretation might have been coming to life.)

Grüße, Carsten