Re: [Ntp] Finding leap-seconds.list

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The IETF has no legal authority to post any TZ data either. It by the way is controlled by three treaties including an international commerce one, an AML one, and another from the ATF realm. 

But the key thing here is in the US the public timebase and all operations about it are tied to 15USC272 and its predecessor, 271.

This isn't really arguable. What is arguable is whether NIST is going to do its job or not it claim that under 15USC260 it's the DOT/RITA who is responsible for this. Since NIST cannot operate any of the joint timekeeping agreements without this IMHO they are stuck with making the data available from a legal standpoint. 

Again this is something the gov. is responsible for IMHO and it should be a formal project of NIST ITS or the Calibration Services desk. 

By the way the legal damage from spoofing this table US huge. So it is what it is.

//tsg

Sent from my HTC, so please excuse any typos this keyboard sucks!

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From: "Steve Allen" <[e-mail]>
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Cc: "Warner Losh" <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, "Martin Burnicki" <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Ntp] Finding leap-seconds.list
Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2018 08:28

On Thu 2018-11-08T07:04:26+0300 [e-mail] hath writ:
> IETF nor any other non government agency ascribed with time keeping
> should be cross posting the LSL.  It is created and is a requirement
> of NIST (and other Government) related time services.

IETF is not the authority for the recent time change in Morocco.
IETF is not the authority for the recent time change in Metlakatla.
Nor for any of the other data in IANA tzdb is IETF the authority.

All of that data is painstakingly gathered by volunteers from a wide
variety of uncooperative sources in order that it is possible to
convert between internal system times and localized civil times.

The leap seconds data are not different in any respect from all of the
other data in the IANA tz database.  Those data are also needed to
convert between internal system times and localized civil times.

If the IETF is going to claim no authority for the leap second
data then please justify the chain of authority for all of the
rest of the IANA tzdb, or else delete all of that as well.

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