Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG

Ignacio Goyret <> Mon, 12 September 2011 14:18 UTC

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At 02:22 PM 9/11/2011 +0000, Vernon Schryver wrote:
>> From: Glen Zorn <>
>> >
>> Well, this is all good fun, in a US/Euro-centric kind of way, but it
>> would be good to remember that in a very large part of the world our
>> "theme song" is a still a vital part of the Internet & is likely to
>> remain so for a considerable period of time.  This email will make the
>> first hop of its journey over (the much maligned) PPPoE, for example;
>> not everybody lives in advanced countries such as S. Korea (the
>> connectivity of which should make both the French and Americans hang
>> their heads in shame).  In short, PPP is far from obsolete.
>I don't think the thrust of that claim is entirely accurate.  Do people
>outside advanced countries use dialup modems or wireless?

Actually, a *lot* of people still use dialup modems and in most cases,
they don't even notice. One simple example: many point-of-sale devices
(pretty much everywhere on the planet, including the US) do a quick
V.21/V.22/V.23 dialup call to authorize a credit or debit card charge.

And guess what: pretty much all of them use good, ol' PPP.

Another device which is not as well spread in the US but is available
in many, many countries is a little USB device that links up to 3G
networks, allowing full IP traffic. Guess what: they also use PPP and
the same dialup framework (even if there are no weeee-weeee, hiss-hiss

BTW, as a simple reference, I happen to be right now in a country
that would clearly fall in the "outside advanced countries" and,
paraphrasing Glen, this email will start its trip using PPP over 3G.

Cheers to all,