Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-tp-pw-oam-config-06
"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Thu, 22 September 2011 10:47 UTC
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It's now been two weeks since the call to discuss the adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-tp-pw-oam-config as a PWE3 working group draft. There has been spirited discussion and opinions both for and against working group adoption. However, while a good number of individuals commented on the draft, the comments were concentrated from a relatively small number of organizations (I know that we're not supposed to pay attention to these things, but of course we do). I would like to remind the WG that this draft was not done in a vacuum, but was derived from requirements in RFCs 5654 and 5860. The base requirement is from RFC 5654: 51 The MPLS-TP control plane MUST support the configuration and modification of OAM maintenance points as well as the activation/ deactivation of OAM when the transport path or transport service is established or modified. There is a similar requirement in section 2.1.6 of RFC 5860. The draft addresses two separate issues: - OAM capability advertisement to handle the new OAM tools from MPLS-TP. - Configuration of those tools using the control plane. We already do the first for VCCV using tLDP, so presumably this is noncontroversial. There is already precedent for the second part, notably OAM configuration in LSP signaling in CCAMP. There also seemed to be a bit of confusion on what's actually in the draft. There were some comments that we shouldn't be sending OAM down the control channel. That's not in the draft, so that's an orthogonal issue. There was also a comment that we don't need a new management protocol, but that's not in the draft either. I am going to keep the call for adoption open for a few more days, with the hope that more WG participants will (re-)read the draft and speak up. There is also the possibility of splitting the draft in two, to separately address the capability advertisement and the OAM configuration. I would like to hear opinions on this as well. Thanks, Andy On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote: > This email begins a two-week poll on the PWE3 working group adoption > of draft-zhang-mpls-tp-pw-oam-config-06, to end on Sept. 20. > > You can read the draft at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-mpls-tp-pw-oam-config-06 . > > The MPLS working group was bcc:ed for their information. > > Please respond with any comments to pwe3@ietf.org ONLY. > > Thanks, > Andy
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… zhang.fei3
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… zhang.fei3
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Thomas Nadeau
- [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-tp-pw… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Giles Heron
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… neil.2.harrison
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… zhang.fei3
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… zhang.fei3
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… neil.2.harrison
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- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… John E Drake
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Malcolm.BETTS
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… John E Drake
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- Re: [PWE3] [mpls] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang… xiao.min2
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- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… David Sinicrope
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Daniele Ceccarelli
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- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… zhang.fei3
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… David Allan I
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… neil.2.harrison
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… neil.2.harrison
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 WG adoption of draft-zhang-mpls-t… David Allan I
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