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Re: [rfc-i] Unicode in xml2rfc v3

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 17 December 2020 16:51 UTC

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:51:17 -0500
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From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2020, Lars Eggert wrote:
> I think it was Julian who proposed to lift the restriction on Unicode to only be allowed in <contact> and instead rely on the community (at the I-D stage) and the IESG/ISE/RPC for when I-Ds become RFCs to check for "abuse" of Unicode (which I struggle to see happening in practice.)

In general I agree but I would like some guardrails about codepoints and 
combinations that are unlikely or obscure and likely not to render 
reliably.

And, of course, there are emoji.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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