Re: [Rfced-future] Consensus check: Issue 22 – new stream for RFC Editor

["Joel M. Halpern" <[e-mail]>]

Hmm.  That does not seem to match reality.  The IESG and IRSG do not 
attend the stream managers meetings.  From everything I have ever been 
told about, the IRTF chair and the IETF chair have historically attended 
those meetings.  And made practical decisions.  (I am sure that for 
major items the IETF Chair checks with the IESG.  The IRSG serves at the 
pleasure of the IRTF chair, so whether he (the IRTF Chair) checks with 
them is presumably up to him.)

Yours,
Joel

On 6/25/2021 3:19 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 6/23/21 3:06 AM, Joel Halpern Direct wrote:
>> I am wondering if we are mixing the concept of stream manager with
>> stream content owner.  The IESG is responsible for the content of the
>> IETF stream.  The IETF Chair or their delegate is the IETF stream
>> manager.  That role is making sure that there are no issues with the
>> practical publication of the stream, including interacting with the RPC.
> 
> I'm not sure that we have a clear definition of the role of a stream
> manager. Bits and pieces are scattered around in RFCs 4844, 4845, 4846,
> 4714, etc.
> 
>> Declaring the RSAB to be the stream manager hurts my head.  That is not
>> a person.  And will create confusion about the role of the RSAB.  WHile
>> the obvious analogy is to declare that the RSAB chair is the stream
>> manager for this new stream, it seems to me that creates confusion since
>> that person is (unless they are the RSE/A) the stream head for some
>> other stream.
> 
> According to https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/#streamman the stream
> managers are:
> 
> For the IAB stream, the IAB Chair
> For the IETF stream, the IESG
> For the Independent Submissions stream, the ISE
> For the IRTF, the IRSG
> 
> So we already have stream managers that are not natural persons.
> 
> Peter
>