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Re: [Rfced-future] Consensus check: Issue 22 – new stream for RFC Editor

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 25 June 2021 21:26 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Consensus check: Issue 22 – new stream for RFC Editor
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On 26-Jun-21 08:55, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 6/25/21 2:52 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>> Hmm.  That does not seem to match reality. 
> 
> Well, then we should align documentation with reality. ;-)

How about 

  the IESG (represented by any AD) and the IRSG (normally represented by the IRTF Chair)

     Brian

> 
>> The IESG and IRSG do not
>> attend the stream managers meetings.  From everything I have ever 
been
>> told about, the IRTF chair and the IETF chair have historically attended
>> those meetings.  And made practical decisions.  (I am sure that for
>> major items the IETF Chair checks with the IESG.  The IRSG serves 
at the
>> pleasure of the IRTF chair, so whether he (the IRTF Chair) checks with
>> them is presumably up to him.)
> 
> Right.
> 
> Peter
>

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