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Re: [Rfced-future] Consensus check: Issue 22 – new stream for RFC Editor

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 22 June 2021 22:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Consensus check: Issue 22 – new stream for RFC Editor
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On 23-Jun-21 09:30, Martin Thomson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, at 06:28, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>> I think a stream exists because an organisation has requested to 
>> publish within the RFC Series. 
>> The owner of the Series surely decides whether to allow publication and 
>> whether a new stream is appropriate.
>>
>> I'm also interested in how a stream is shut down. Who makes that decision?
> 
> My simple answer to both of these is: the RSWG proposes a change to the structure (add a stream, remove a stream) and the RSAB approves it.  I think that both warrant publishing an RFC that documents the addition.

Fully agreed, except that as just noted, I believe that creating the editorial stream, publishing the new model, and fixing the IAB charter must be done as a piece of synchronized swimming.

   Brian C.

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