Re: [Roll] New proposed charter

"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Mon, 14 December 2015 15:47 UTC

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
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I hope so and my reading is yes. 
And we must not forget SLLAO and MTU if we really want to avoid RAs between routers...

Cheers,

Pascal


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randy Turner
> Sent: lundi 14 décembre 2015 05:47
> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Roll] New proposed charter
> 
> 
> I think there are other ROLL drafts to be discussed on the document tracker -
> one is using DIOs to distribute compression context, and the larger discussion
> about usage of DIOs to obviate the need for RFC 6775 or other ND traffic.
> Would this be picked up in the new charter ?  If not, what would be the
> disposition of these discussions ?
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> > On Dec 13, 2015, at 10:35 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Randy Turner <rturner@amalfisystems.com> wrote:
> >> I thought the discussion was around developing a new charter. If
> >> that's the case then nothing is "in scope" yet. If we're not
> >> discussing potential work items for a new charter then what is this
> >> thread about again?  I would be happy to work up a draft if that's
> >> what is required to get things "in scope"
> >
> > Step 1a) adjust charter.  The PROPOSED charter text ALREADY says:
> >
> >    ***the standardization of a mixed storing/non-storing mechanism***
> >
> > so anything that you want to write about a "non-storing with multicast-
> storing"
> > would fit into that wording.
> >
> > 1b) the text also says, "look at enhancements and maintenance to the RPL
> >   protocol"
> >
> > So, anything which ads to RPL is in scope.
> >
> > 2) Step 2, when the new charter is in place, PLEASE:
> >   "Write an ID, slides, etc.."
> >
> > about "non-storing with multicast-storing", and see if there is a
> > reason/support for the IETF to standardize it.  It could be that only
> > you care, in which case you can write it up as a non-WG submission, not
> subject to standardization.
> > Or it could be that it's the coolest thing since HTTP, and everyone
> > wants to run it...
> >
> > --
> > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
> > IETF ROLL WG co-chair.    http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/roll/charter/
> >
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